Comments on: Data Portability? Let’s Get Rid of It http://notsorelevant.com/2008-05-11/data-portability-lets-get-rid-of-it/ no expert in technology Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:18:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: DataPortability Fatigue at notizBlog - a private weblog written by Matthias Pfefferle http://notsorelevant.com/2008-05-11/data-portability-lets-get-rid-of-it/#comment-7255 DataPortability Fatigue at notizBlog - a private weblog written by Matthias Pfefferle Tue, 13 May 2008 19:43:17 +0000 http://www.notsorelevant.com/2008-05-11/data-portability-lets-get-rid-of-it/#comment-7255 [...] Carsten Pötter beschreibt das bestehende Problem auch noch einmal von einer etwas anderen Seite: DataPortability, Data Availability, Facebook Connect, Google Friend Connect, DiSo,… [...] All the mentioned initiatives just lead to confusion. We can’t be sure if we mean the same thing when talking about data portability anymore. It’s probably best to abandon that term and just focus on single issues. Can I export my profile or can it just be accessed by a third party? [...] [...] Carsten Pötter beschreibt das bestehende Problem auch noch einmal von einer etwas anderen Seite: DataPortability, Data Availability, Facebook Connect, Google Friend Connect, DiSo,… [...] All the mentioned initiatives just lead to confusion. We can’t be sure if we mean the same thing when talking about data portability anymore. It’s probably best to abandon that term and just focus on single issues. Can I export my profile or can it just be accessed by a third party? [...]

]]> By: Carsten Pötter http://notsorelevant.com/2008-05-11/data-portability-lets-get-rid-of-it/#comment-7251 Carsten Pötter Mon, 12 May 2008 13:28:33 +0000 http://www.notsorelevant.com/2008-05-11/data-portability-lets-get-rid-of-it/#comment-7251 Dan, maybe the community (=early adopters, advocates of open technologies,...) will find consensus on technologies to be used, on privacy issues, and other related topics regarding data portability. Maybe we will even see some kind of reference implementation. But I am highly skeptical by now if any big vendor will implement it. Probably we will see implementations that feature small aspects of what data portability is about (and in one way or another the announcements by Facebook and MySpace indicate that) but the whole concept won't be implemented. On the other hand there are services like Dopplr which seem to do many things right. Maybe I shouldn't be too negative. ;) Though it doesn't help if big vendors join the DataPortability.org group, publish press releases about it but don't actively support it (I read from a Facebook manager that they will just watch it; can't find the quote anymore, though). They hide behind that group and make every tiny step as if it was groundbreaking in any way. It just leads to confusion and false assumptions. Dan, maybe the community (=early adopters, advocates of open technologies,…) will find consensus on technologies to be used, on privacy issues, and other related topics regarding data portability. Maybe we will even see some kind of reference implementation. But I am highly skeptical by now if any big vendor will implement it.

Probably we will see implementations that feature small aspects of what data portability is about (and in one way or another the announcements by Facebook and MySpace indicate that) but the whole concept won’t be implemented. On the other hand there are services like Dopplr which seem to do many things right. Maybe I shouldn’t be too negative. ;)
Though it doesn’t help if big vendors join the DataPortability.org group, publish press releases about it but don’t actively support it (I read from a Facebook manager that they will just watch it; can’t find the quote anymore, though). They hide behind that group and make every tiny step as if it was groundbreaking in any way. It just leads to confusion and false assumptions.

]]> By: Dan Donald http://notsorelevant.com/2008-05-11/data-portability-lets-get-rid-of-it/#comment-7250 Dan Donald Mon, 12 May 2008 12:58:38 +0000 http://www.notsorelevant.com/2008-05-11/data-portability-lets-get-rid-of-it/#comment-7250 Hi Carsten, Good post. I think there are a hell of a lot of issues to be figured out, least of all the technical side. In many respects anyone that has any opinion on data portability needs to be throwing it out there for debate. Who should host any of this stuff? How can we simply tell a store they can use our likes and dislikes to recommend stuff to us? How do we know what will be shown and that our privacy is considered? As a web developer I'm hoping that the community as a whole can find some consensus on the ideas and through everyone's initiative and experiments we can find something we can build sites and apps on top of or else the general public will never see any real benefit and surely that's the point ;) Cheers, Dan Hi Carsten,

Good post.
I think there are a hell of a lot of issues to be figured out, least of all the technical side. In many respects anyone that has any opinion on data portability needs to be throwing it out there for debate.

Who should host any of this stuff? How can we simply tell a store they can use our likes and dislikes to recommend stuff to us? How do we know what will be shown and that our privacy is considered?

As a web developer I’m hoping that the community as a whole can find some consensus on the ideas and through everyone’s initiative and experiments we can find something we can build sites and apps on top of or else the general public will never see any real benefit and surely that’s the point ;)
Cheers,

Dan

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